..about honda's I can say one thing Bowser, they are fast as the speed of light!, I drive in a lotta very expensive cars, the very big ones, but I also have a (paparazziundercovercar)Honda Civic 1500 16v automatic, 60000 km/from new only (1990), that little Honda is faster than the big heavy loads!, I mean a Touareg VW, 3.2, V6 (2300kgs!), a RR Phantom..ahum!, 2500 Kgs!, if they run, they run..they run,..but..the little honda is already there!...at a 1 on 15km's fuelconsumption, the Touareg, not too good, not too bad, I really don't wanna know, I think 1 on 5, and a roller does 25 litrs at 100 km/ easely!...